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And I was also concerned about whether it would eventually damage the homebuilding freedoms that the community has enjoyed thus far. That's more help than I want, and than I want to pay for. I also wouldn't do the 'two-weeks to taxi' program though I looked carefully at it. I think I am the kind of builder the 'assist' programs were designed to help, and that people like Noel could help - (though I don't need a -10). I just know that I will need help sometimes when I can't make progress on my own. If so, I would buy a completed plane someone else is selling. I'm NOT looking for someone to do the work for me in my absence. Third, I will need actual physical building help with difficult steps, or when I get stuck, or when I just can't get past those 'stalled' times that all complex projects have. Two or three week 'fast progress' sessions at needed intervals could be a great boost toward completion. But there I have a framework, an accountability team, and we celebrate progress together.

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I complete difficult and long-term projects in my professional life all the time. Second, I will need the accountability of a managing partner, and clear progress to keep me going forward. I need someone to guide me through it, and to teach me the skills and processes that are needed at each step of the way. But this is a complex project in a realm where I have very little knowledge or experience. I am confident that I am intelligent enough and skilled enough to learn what I need to learn to build an RV. Here's what I would look for in a builder assist service.įirst, I need a build manager. In your shop, a two or three week building vacation.awesome!! because it was not just you doing the riveting?įrankly I am really pleased by the existance of this service because it is what I think could well be the prototype for appropriate builder assist. For crying out lound, riveting/bucking is designed to be a two person job.does that mean you need to either use pulled rivets, or not give yourself credit for the riveting. There is no requirement that you are the SOLE manipulator of the tools. But, there would be nothing wrong with me paying someone to work with me and teach me, so long as I am working on everything at the same time. I have been blessed with the smart and helpful people in my area that have helped and advised for free. The sky is NOT falling, the sky is NOT falling. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PAYING SOMEONE FOR LESSONS OR ADVICE, OR TO BUCK RIVETS WITH YOU. Two other friends have helped me that own an aviation business, are A&P's and I have paid them too, by purchasing items from their business, working on their planes, etc.

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I paid him.at least 5 hours flight time in the citabria, some quality single malt scotch, a handful of dinners, free boarding since he lives in another state, and an extra nice xmas present that year.Īnother friend of mine who is a professional military pilot and CFI has bucked rivets, but I introduced him to his new wife, have bought dinner many times, and generally laugh at his bad jokes. The way they still qualify is because you are present and participating in everything that is done.ĭuring my slow build, my father (military helicopter mechanic later pilot) came and bucked rivets and helped with other wing tasks. It's no different than the '30-seconds-to-taxi' programs. BUT, if they assist you in building it, you are 'participating' in at least 51% of the build. The way I understand it, if you hired them to come and build your plane for you, whatever they built would not be included in the 51%. That sound to me like it fits perfectly with the 51% rule. Noel is an EAA Tech Counselor and spent quite a bit of time examining everything we had done when he arrived. Not only did it move the project ahead, it gave me more peace of mind that our work to date is good.

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Someone with the knowledge that allows us to avoid some of the pitfalls that will inevitably come along for newbie builders like us, is no different than soliciting advice on this and other forums, having Stein build my panel, or getting help from a friend that really knows how to work fiberglass. Mary and I put in ten hour days alongside Noel as he directed, instructed, and helped us. What we needed was someone with experience to come direct us on what needs to be done next, as we start putting all of these little projects together to make an airplane. We have been working hard on this project for nearly two years. Noel and Brian spent several days with Mary and I last month and I will have no problem asserting that Mary and I built the airplane.

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